"Disorders" and "Debates" - A Debate About Disorders.

I figured I would shake things up a bit with this new post by showing you all a piece of conversation between a friend of mine, Raymond, and myself. It started with me giving him a forcibly dry sarcastic remark about Schizophrenia. I was forcibly dry because there is not many ways to express sarcasm through writing/typing.
But I post this hoping for some lively debate among everyone. By the way, this conversation is basically unchanged. I just took out some things unimportant to this blog.

"11:20PMRick

I think I might be Schizophrenic

11:22pmRaymond

?

11:23pmRick

I was installing our printer on my computer earlier, and I was talking to myself. I needed to check on the printer, so I said to myself, "We should go check on the printer."

11:24pmRaymond

That doesn't sound schitzo.

11:26pmRick

How so?

11:26pmRaymond

How does it?

It sounds like royalty to me.

11:27pmRick

???

11:28pmRaymond

You didn't answer me.

11:29pmRick

Because I referred to myself as we. So I would be either schizo, or legion

11:29pmRaymond

I doubt that.

Royalty refer to themselves as we.

And if you're saying we and you think you are schitzo, then you need to actually know of someone else, not just slip up and say we.

11:32pmRick

really, I do have somewhat of multiple personalities, or more of persona's. I act different ways around different people.

11:33pmRaymond

That's called being human.

11:33pmRick

And royalty, I never really hear say "we" unless they are refering to their mate, or the ruling part of their country

11:36pmRaymond

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majestic_plural

11:37pmRick

I know, I was just reading that and can somewhat see your point

11:38pmRaymond

Somewhat? That's exactly what I said it was.

11:39pmRick

it's also what I said it was

11:39pmRaymond

I've done it before.

I think people think they have a lot more disorders than they actually do.

11:40pmRick

by that description, everyone has

11:40pmRaymond

And I don't know of one person who doesn't act differently around certain people.

11:40pmRick

but I wasn't intentionally refering to myself as 'we' as these have

That's why I clarified persona's

11:41pmRaymond

I still highly doubt you are at all schizophrenic.

11:42pmRick

I don't

I could see myself as being schizophrenic

11:43pmRaymond

I don't.

I barely believe in the disorder to begin with.

11:44pmRick

What would you say it is?

11:45pmRaymond

What would I say what is?

11:46pmRick

"Schizophrenia"

11:53pmRaymond

I don't doubt that there are people out there that could have it. I haven't done extensive research or anything. It's just that every time I've watched anything about it, it just looked entirely fake. Maybe I'm wrong, but it just looked like people were trying too hard to make someone believe that they had another personality. It almost seems like a scapegoat that they can blame their problems and misfortunes on.

11:54pmRaymond

And I think that a lot of people (no offense to you) that think they might have it are at least subconsciously wishing they did so they do have something to blame their problems on. I feel the same way about depression. Not that I don't think there are people who seriously have clinical depression, but I don't think half the people taking medication for it actually need it.

11:55pmRaymond

Just like how I say that just because you are obsessive compulsive doesn't mean you have a disorder. It has to actually bring disorder to your life before you can be diagnosed with OCD.

11:59pmRick

First off, now you're drawing on your life experiences.

Secondly, I agree with most of what you say, but I ask you to look at the people who are not on trial for their life or are ot in some kind of trouble. It seems as if they are genuinely reaching out for someone to help them, but when no one comes, they find solace in themselves which creates their ideal of someone who will care for them.

Today

12:04amRaymond

I don't know. Like I said, I could be wrong about it since I haven't researched fully. And in regards to your first post, everyone has their own presuppositions about things. I don't really see how my statements we subjective. At least, if they were, they were definitely objective as well. What do you mean by drawing on my own life experiences? You confused me there.

12:08amRick

Mainly just the instances that you encountered people who have these 'diseases/disorders' and your opinion of them somewhat shapes your opinion on said disorders.

I can think of one big example, but I hope you know who I'm refering to by now.

12:08amRaymond

And you know I like to argue. That's why I went straight for the opposing view when we started the conversation.

12:10amRaymond

You actually wowed me Rickey. I'm a little speechless. I am still standing behind my statements, but I will have to think about how much my opinion of the people effects my view of the disorders in question.

12:11amRick

:)

12:11amRaymond

I think my OCD statement is still pretty valid regardless.

12:11amRick

I wasn't talking about that one, but I did notice it earlier

12:13amRaymond

But I would think depression is a hard one to separate feelings from. But with each disorder, I did admit that I believe there are genuine people out there with it, just a little more skeptical about schizophrenia. And I admit I wasn't being as objective as I thought I was, but at the same time, your encounters with them do help research.

12:14amRick

By the by, as you would eventually find out in my blog, my first statement was simply sarcasm that was forcibly dry considering I had no way to let you know besides typing.

I agree

12:14amRaymond

Which statement?

12:15amRick

I find myself letting my experiences take me over quite a bit, but I like that

"I think I may be Schizophrenic"

12:16amRaymond

I figured until you brought up the persona thing, then I wasn't sure.

12:16amRick

I hate the thought that genetic can be the only thing that controls your opinions. I think life experiences are necessary to the debate process.

12:17amRaymond

I agree. I think there are at least two ways of learning: experiencing things and being taught."

So there you have it. I would appreciate if everyone posts there replies on the original post (a.k.a - Blogger), but if you don't I will try and copy your responses accordingly.